Comments on: Joe Beam’s Ministry to promote Hot Sex http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/ equipping, educating, inspiring, and amusing God's servants Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:56:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Heather http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Heather Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:46:52 +0000 http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/#comment-12 Sorry, got the names of the commenters mixed up - it's Del that my comment was directed to. Sorry, got the names of the commenters mixed up – it’s Del that my comment was directed to.

]]> By: Heather http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Heather Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:45:42 +0000 http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/#comment-11 To the Heather above, not me, the other one: Oh, my, we are prudish, aren't we? Who do you think created sex in the first place? Don't for goodness sakes go visit www.themarriagebed.com. Or read Song of Solomon. The evil sex demon might get you. Seriously, I think Christians in general (not just the above commenter) need to lighten up about this stuff! Oral sex (and the like) is not only performed in pornos, and perhaps if these pastors who are hooked on porn had better sex in their marriages they wouldn't have that problem in the first place! I have never heard of Joe Beam before now, so I can't really comment on his particular ministry, but the attitudes in general are terrible! Sorry about the harsh words - this is an issue that I have strong opinions about. To the Heather above, not me, the other one: Oh, my, we are prudish, aren’t we? Who do you think created sex in the first place?

Don’t for goodness sakes go visit http://www.themarriagebed.com. Or read Song of Solomon. The evil sex demon might get you.

Seriously, I think Christians in general (not just the above commenter) need to lighten up about this stuff! Oral sex (and the like) is not only performed in pornos, and perhaps if these pastors who are hooked on porn had better sex in their marriages they wouldn’t have that problem in the first place!

I have never heard of Joe Beam before now, so I can’t really comment on his particular ministry, but the attitudes in general are terrible! Sorry about the harsh words – this is an issue that I have strong opinions about.

]]> By: Jeff @ SmartPastor.com http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Jeff @ SmartPastor.com Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:33:43 +0000 http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/#comment-10 I have removed the e-mail addresses from the posters on this story. People are e-mailing them for their comments. If you disagree or agree, please post your disagreement, don't e-mail the commenter. Jeff I have removed the e-mail addresses from the posters on this story. People are e-mailing them for their comments. If you disagree or agree, please post your disagreement, don’t e-mail the commenter.

Jeff

]]> By: Heather http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Heather Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:52:32 +0000 http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/#comment-9 I think it's silly that the comment above says that helping couples enjoy oral sex will lead to demons taking them over. That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. Joe Beam is helping married couples fulfill each other and not feel guilty about enjoying each other's body. God gave sex as a gift and it's idiotic for people like the person above to condemn Joe for simply telling people that within marriage they can enjoy sex with each other! Thank you Joe! I think it’s silly that the comment above says that helping couples enjoy oral sex will lead to demons taking them over. That is the silliest thing I have ever heard.

Joe Beam is helping married couples fulfill each other and not feel guilty about enjoying each other’s body. God gave sex as a gift and it’s idiotic for people like the person above to condemn Joe for simply telling people that within marriage they can enjoy sex with each other!

Thank you Joe!

]]> By: Del Wallace http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Del Wallace Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:48:55 +0000 http://www.smartpastor.com/joe-beams-ministry-to-promote-hot-sex/#comment-8 This is in reference to Joe Beam. I believe that what he is doing is an abomination and little more than an excuse for “Christian porn” in the church. Is this the new craze for “Christ centered adult entertainment?” Sure, there is some need for sexual advice and therapy for Christian couples within marriage, but there are plenty of less obtrusive resources available for that. Right now there is a sexual revolution going on in the world, and the Church is trying to figure out where they fit in. Yes, there are many things in the Bible where God does not lay down all the rules for what Christians can and cannot do (like the subjects of masturbation or what sort of sex acts are "Biblical" for married couples during love making). But with so much porn on the internet and everywhere else today, our society is saturated with open sexual perversion — to promote this kind of thing in the church IN ANY FORM (that eroticism is good for Christians and we should “go for it all,” and as stated on MSNBC in Joe Beam’s seminar — how Christian wives can make their husbands semen taste better during oral sex), this opening the door for Satan and even demonic influence to lay hold in the lives of many of God’s saints. The sort of sexual acts Joe Beam encourages Christian husbands and wives to perform, is the sort of stuff you see in hard core porn movies these days. Today, the statistics prove that an absolutely HUGE percentage of Christian men (and even pastors) are hooked on porn on the internet – looking at dirty pictures and movies and masturbating. And even Christian women are hooked on various fantasies. There are now a number of Christian websites offering all sorts of sex toys and other paraphernalia EXCLUSIVELY for Christians. Right now the church door is opening just a crack. Not far behind what Joe Beam is promoting, will be so called “kingdom relationships” (such as took place a few years back at a major church in Atlanta), where people can enjoy sex with others within the body of Christ in ways that are mutually loving and “not harmful.” Or how about making Christian porn movies as an alternative to what the world is offering (of course only married couples would perform the sex acts to start out with)? These movies, could enhance the sexual experience of other Christian couples and “glorify Christ” in the process. After all, the church “needs to provide an alternative,” especially for our younger folk who will be looking forward to the joys of marriage. (In fact, right now the website, www.sexinchrist.com, is promoting this very idea of a proposal for "Christian porn"). There is no end to where all this could lead, people can try to justify according to scripture whatever perversion they want (including gay marriage). I am sick and tired of people using the Song of Solomon as an excuse for anything goes. The New Testament nowhere even hints at the idea that Christian eroticism is a good idea. Sex is a natural act like eating or anything else we do as humans, it is God's way of bringing people into this world, and man has always reproduced for centuries without all the explosive sexual phenomenon and erotica that we are witnessing today in society (even the puritans back in the 1700's were having babies). GOD DOES NOT WANT HIS CHILDREN MAKING SEX THE BIG THING IN THEIR LIVES, IT CAN BECOME A WORSHIP THING OF THE FLESH. Here is something else to think about in relation to what God thinks about sex. Something very plain in scripture that no one seems to mention. There are umpteen verses in the Bible that show that celibacy and ABSTINENCE FROM SEX IS VERY PLEASING TO GOD. Passage after passage talks about the unmarried being highly honorable to the Lord, and to stay single is better for some people than marriage. Jesus in Mat 19:12 talked about those who make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom. In 1 Cor 7:34 it talks about the virgin being “more pure in body and in spirit.” The apostle Paul said that it is actually a good thing for a man not to touch a woman (1 Cor 7:1). WHY ISN’T JOE BEAM TALKING ABOUT THIS WEIGHT OF SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE AWAY FROM SEX AND TOWARDS GOD EXCLUSIVELY. I will say it point blank. The worship of sex in any form is IDOLATRY, even in marriage. Christian rock music has now come into the church and Christian porn in various forms is not going to be far behind. In the days ahead you may even find a "mature section" when you go into some of your local Christian book stores (demand for what sells will always win out). We may witness abominations in the Christian church in the next ten to twenty years that will be mind-boggling now, but then become acceptable. These are indeed the last days. May Jesus help us all. This is in reference to Joe Beam. I believe that what he is doing is an abomination and little more than an excuse for “Christian porn” in the church. Is this the new craze for “Christ centered adult entertainment?” Sure, there is some need for sexual advice and therapy for Christian couples within marriage, but there are plenty of less obtrusive resources available for that. Right now there is a sexual revolution going on in the world, and the Church is trying to figure out where they fit in. Yes, there are many things in the Bible where God does not lay down all the rules for what Christians can and cannot do (like the subjects of masturbation or what sort of sex acts are “Biblical” for married couples during love making). But with so much porn on the internet and everywhere else today, our society is saturated with open sexual perversion — to promote this kind of thing in the church IN ANY FORM (that eroticism is good for Christians and we should “go for it all,” and as stated on MSNBC in Joe Beam’s seminar — how Christian wives can make their husbands semen taste better during oral sex), this opening the door for Satan and even demonic influence to lay hold in the lives of many of God’s saints. The sort of sexual acts Joe Beam encourages Christian husbands and wives to perform, is the sort of stuff you see in hard core porn movies these days. Today, the statistics prove that an absolutely HUGE percentage of Christian men (and even pastors) are hooked on porn on the internet – looking at dirty pictures and movies and masturbating. And even Christian women are hooked on various fantasies. There are now a number of Christian websites offering all sorts of sex toys and other paraphernalia EXCLUSIVELY for Christians. Right now the church door is opening just a crack. Not far behind what Joe Beam is promoting, will be so called “kingdom relationships” (such as took place a few years back at a major church in Atlanta), where people can enjoy sex with others within the body of Christ in ways that are mutually loving and “not harmful.” Or how about making Christian porn movies as an alternative to what the world is offering (of course only married couples would perform the sex acts to start out with)? These movies, could enhance the sexual experience of other Christian couples and “glorify Christ” in the process. After all, the church “needs to provide an alternative,” especially for our younger folk who will be looking forward to the joys of marriage. (In fact, right now the website, http://www.sexinchrist.com, is promoting this very idea of a proposal for “Christian porn”). There is no end to where all this could lead, people can try to justify according to scripture whatever perversion they want (including gay marriage). I am sick and tired of people using the Song of Solomon as an excuse for anything goes. The New Testament nowhere even hints at the idea that Christian eroticism is a good idea. Sex is a natural act like eating or anything else we do as humans, it is God’s way of bringing people into this world, and man has always reproduced for centuries without all the explosive sexual phenomenon and erotica that we are witnessing today in society (even the puritans back in the 1700’s were having babies). GOD DOES NOT WANT HIS CHILDREN MAKING SEX THE BIG THING IN THEIR LIVES, IT CAN BECOME A WORSHIP THING OF THE FLESH. Here is something else to think about in relation to what God thinks about sex. Something very plain in scripture that no one seems to mention. There are umpteen verses in the Bible that show that celibacy and ABSTINENCE FROM SEX IS VERY PLEASING TO GOD. Passage after passage talks about the unmarried being highly honorable to the Lord, and to stay single is better for some people than marriage. Jesus in Mat 19:12 talked about those who make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom. In 1 Cor 7:34 it talks about the virgin being “more pure in body and in spirit.” The apostle Paul said that it is actually a good thing for a man not to touch a woman (1 Cor 7:1). WHY ISN’T JOE BEAM TALKING ABOUT THIS WEIGHT OF SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE AWAY FROM SEX AND TOWARDS GOD EXCLUSIVELY. I will say it point blank. The worship of sex in any form is IDOLATRY, even in marriage. Christian rock music has now come into the church and Christian porn in various forms is not going to be far behind. In the days ahead you may even find a “mature section” when you go into some of your local Christian book stores (demand for what sells will always win out). We may witness abominations in the Christian church in the next ten to twenty years that will be mind-boggling now, but then become acceptable. These are indeed the last days. May Jesus help us all.

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